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Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by canadianboy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:47 am


I know this has been brought up before but i wanna know how some leaders are building these days.
I used to prospect with the business approach (ads,cards,flyers,e-mail with an income opportunity) and got good results but for a year i built only with the product approach (introducing to my health product then showing the business if they liked it and had very good results also but i sometimes want to come back to the business approach cause i believe its a faster process? Right?
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by jana » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:52 am


We always do both, at the same time ... ads and drop-cards and stuff for the business opportunity; and catalogues and product-information for customers (some of whom will much more slowly become distributors too).

Pat, do you use this "jetstream" online thing that your company has?

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by BrianJohnson777 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:03 am


I know this has been brought up before but i wanna know how some leaders are building these days.
I used to prospect with the business approach (ads,cards,flyers,e-mail with an income opportunity) and got good results but for a year i built only with the product approach (introducing to my health product then showing the business if they liked it and had very good results also but i sometimes want to come back to the business approach cause i believe its a faster process? Right?


I think you will find true leaders on both sides of that equasion. If you've had success with both, my criticle thinking says either do what's right for you or do what's right for your prospect...either way you win right?

For me, passion for my product needs to come first. Those are the people I seek...right or wrong. Maybe that will change when my success and my track record for making others successfull equals the success I've had from the product.

Also, I'm a visual person. My product creates a physical and emotion response from everyone who tries the product.

For example, One of my new guys saw the pictures of the 100lb club. He's also heard my sheding 30 lbs in 30 days. So he bought the business builder pack...just incase his results mirrored ours. Well it did. He just finished his 9 day cleanse and nearly matched my results.

Weather he does the business or not, i've got a long term product user preaching the good values to the market place. I.e. doing the businesses blindly. This is leading to a number of people getting on board from his physical and emotion impact.

That's just one story. I know others with similar results from a promoting the concept of Network Marketing and business opportunity of my company.

Which is right or better? Both...or either, I think.

Brian NC

P.S. I think this is one of those chicken or the egg discussions. One of my favs, BTW.
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by BrianJohnson777 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:15 am


We always do both, at the same time ... ads and drop-cards and stuff for the business opportunity; and catalogues and product-information for customers (some of whom will much more slowly become distributors too).

Pat, do you use this "jetstream" online thing that your company has?

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Jana,

Can I ask you a question? I don't mean this in a snide or mean way but...woman...how the heck do you have time to be a doctor, post in here as often as you do...and still have time to build a business?

Do you have a 24 hour clock over there too? LOL

You must be a time managment QUEEN!

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by RoyHancock » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:18 am


I think it's a trade off if you approach it 100% from the business or the products. You can build it faster with the business approach. It will be slower but you will have a much stronger downline if you approach it with the products.

I approach it with the business but make sure they know what our products are designed to do and how understanding and believing in the products develops a strong residual.
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by jana » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:51 am


Jana,

Can I ask you a question? I don't mean this in a snide or mean way but...woman...how the heck do you have time to be a doctor, post in here as often as you do...and still have time to build a business?


LOL ... I work about 10 hours per week as a doctor at the moment; and have only picked up my MLM business and started building it again since last September (for 2 years before that, I was working about 30 hours per week as a doctor and not doing nearly so much on the MLM side). I just make it sound like I do a lot ... [;)]
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by BrianJohnson777 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:00 am


Can I ask what type of Dr. are you?

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by jana » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:01 am


Can I ask what type of Dr. are you?


Neurologist (and clinical neurophysiologist, a bit, not so much now).
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by DeuceHartley » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:04 am


Can I ask what type of Dr. are you?


Neurologist (and clinical neurophysiologist, a bit, not so much now).



That's all? Heehee.

I saw a Bulgarian neurologist a few weeks back. She didn't speak much English and I don't speak Bulgarian so our conversation was quite humorous, until she stuck me with a needle to test my conduction in my arm. Turns out I have 15% loss of conduction from being hit by a pot 8 years ago.....LOL! Not from the repeated dislocation and torture I've put my shoulder through.

Sorry to detract, I'm not in a health company. But man oh man, our brownies are awesome! [;)]

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by BrianJohnson777 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:06 am


Can I ask what type of Dr. are you?


Neurologist (and clinical neurophysiologist, a bit, not so much now).


I knew there was a reason I liked you [;)] A side from plastic surgery....Neurology is my favorite "ology"

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by canadianboy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:13 am


no i don't use the jet fighter pilot system i don't know how it works but i build deep.
I give and help the one that deserve it.
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by cthompson » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:54 am


I have been using meetup to meet others in my neighborhood.
It is http://www.meetup.com

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p.s. Jana if you come to Arizona USA
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by canadianboy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:10 am


I have been using meetup to meet others in my neighborhood.
It is http://www.meetup.com

Namaste,

Chris
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p.s. Jana if you come to Arizona USA
You will be so busy as a specialist.
Arizona is crowded and the doctors
are busy.
My neurologist is from Russia.
I love her!!

that doesn't answer the question.
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by Craig_Mattice » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:21 pm


I don't really know if this is what you're looking for in an answer but I am currently looking seriously at a superior nutritional and weightloss company.

I looking at this question I will be working from both the product approach and the business approach depending on my prospect at the time.

I know the business approach is the quickest way to build a solid business but developing product volume (which is what all commission payments are based) really helps to solidify the business and great for future associates.

Both methods are necessary to be successful with a solid business foundation in your organization.

Again, we are only speaking of nutritional companies here.
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by Steve_Fazia » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:41 pm


I would have to echo Roy's post on this question. You may build a bit faster with the business approach, but a product approach will build a more stable group, with the potential of providing some great distributors from the ranks of satisfied customers. Personally, I have drifted back and forth between the 2 areas of empahsis, but deep down I am first and foremost a product guy. Presently, I'm experiencing a nice little run of excited product users who are seriously looking at the business. I'll take this group of business prospects all day long over those who are out just for the money....Just my .02 worth after a couple of decades in health and wellness [;)]


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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by jana » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:53 pm


I would have to echo Roy's post on this question. You may build a bit faster with the business approach, but a product approach will build a more stable group, with the potential of providing some great distributors from the ranks of satisfied customers.


Yes, I also agree with this. People who gradually become distributors because they re-order every few weeks will also gradually lead thesmelves (and you) to other customers. They may be slow at signing up a whole group of distributors, but you also won't lose them to the next MLM that comes along offering "we do it all for you" and "we pay 10% more" and whatever. [:)]
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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by heatherb » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:00 pm


I don't really know if this is what you're looking for in an answer but I am currently looking seriously at a superior nutritional and weightloss company.

I looking at this question I will be working from both the product approach and the business approach depending on my prospect at the time.

I know the business approach is the quickest way to build a solid business but developing product volume (which is what all commission payments are based) really helps to solidify the business and great for future associates.

Both methods are necessary to be successful with a solid business foundation in your organization.

Again, we are only speaking of nutritional companies here.


I agree Craig. You have to lead with the appropriate strategy, depending on who you are talking to. For instance, I am talking to someone with a toothache. Do you think I'm going to start off telling her about how much money she can make? She'd think I was nuts.

Another way to look at it from a general perspective, is I always lead with our "best product" which is our business builder pack, unless the situation dictates another approach.

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by djsartin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:23 pm


If it's advertising Craig, I lead with both,
singly...at different times.

Any other situation, I simply 'lead with my
ears'...ie: mentioning one or the other as
appropriate.

Like others too, if leading with the business,
I stress the opportunity exists because
of the outstanding products.

Hope this helps,

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by DonnaValdes » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:46 pm


You have to lead with a tool that will present both to them. Then let that person tell YOU what they are interested in.... some call is leading with the solution.

Simple easy to teach others.

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Re: Health companies builders only, i have a question.

by canadianboy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:30 pm


Well 2 months ago i gave a product brochure to my mom's doctor and she just signed up this morning. She also has mlm experience.

I guess both ways are good but has many say the business approach is faster.
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